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Title: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 05:28:15 pm
source (http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/637992.html)

"The painkiller morphine may help protect against HIV-associated dementia, says a new study.

"Georgetown University Medical Center researchers found that morphine protected rat neurons from HIV toxicity, a discovery that could lead to the development of new drugs to treat people with HIV-related dementia, which causes depression, anxiety and physical and mental problems.

"'We believe that morphine may be neuroprotective in a subset of people infected with HIV,' lead investigator Italo Mocchetti, a professor of neuroscience, said in a Georgetown news release.

"He and his colleagues conducted the study because they knew that some people with HIV who are heroin users never develop HIV brain dementia. Morphine is similar to heroin."
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: next2u on April 17, 2010, 05:45:04 pm
i hope the do similar studies with thc. speaking of thc, where is queen?
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 17, 2010, 06:14:39 pm
Yuck. Heroin.  Definitely not my party favor of choice. 

Why can't they do a study like this around poppers?
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 17, 2010, 06:17:17 pm
Yuck. Heroin.  Definitely not my party favor of choice. 

Why can't they do a study like this around poppers?

Indeed. I've never been able to handle heroin. All that puking, itching and constipation. Buggers me how anyone can get hooked on the wretched stuff.

MtD
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 06:25:01 pm
Indeed. I've never been able to handle heroin. All that puking, itching and constipation. Buggers me how anyone can get hooked on the wretched stuff.

MtD

The high is amazing -- unlike anything else.  But yeah, it doesn't just make me wretch a couple of times like most people.  I literally vomit at least once an hour for a 24 hour period.

I could tell you all some rather fab stories of slumming off the Grand Concourse in the South Bronx in the early 90's with young Dominican boys scoring bags of dope and then getting plowed for hours in between the vomit and ingestion of bottles of Pepto Bismol.  Good times, and ever so adventurous for a little white girl from the landed gentry of Loudoun County.

I've also smoked crack under the stairwells of semi-abandoned project buildings while dispensing blowjobs.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 17, 2010, 06:27:07 pm
The high is amazing -- unlike anything else.  But yeah, it doesn't just make me wretch a couple of times like most people.  I literally vomit at least once an hour for a 24 hour period.

I could tell you all some rather fab stories of slumming off the Grand Concourse in the South Bronx in the early 90's with young Dominican boys scoring bags of dope and then getting plowed for hours in between the vomit and ingestion of bottles of Pepto Bismol.  Good times.

Just made me brutally ill. Unable even to sit up, the room spun for 15 hours. Ghastly.

MtD
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 06:28:01 pm
Just made me brutally ill. Unable even to sit up, the room spun for 15 hours. Ghastly.

MtD

Lightweight!  You should try doing a speedball and pulling a River Phoenix.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 17, 2010, 06:29:28 pm
Lightweight!  You should try doing a speedball and pulling a River Phoenix.

Firstly, I could have pulled River without the need for Mother H. :)

Secondly I would never adulterate a sacred stimulant with a demonic depressive!  :o

MtD
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 06:32:54 pm
Firstly, I could have pulled River without the need for Mother H. :)

Secondly I would never adulterate a sacred stimulant with a demonic depressive!  :o

MtD

Never snort klonopin and combine it with dope either... the world quickly becomes hyper messy!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: next2u on April 17, 2010, 06:34:13 pm
you two boys are oh so bad. i can't even hold a candle. i dont think i've ever seen heroin or crack.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Inchlingblue on April 17, 2010, 06:34:18 pm

I've also smoked crack under the stairwells of semi-abandoned project buildings while dispensing blowjobs.

"I've been to paradise but I've never been to . . . me."

LINK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn7d7gZj_qc

Firstly, I could have pulled River without the need for Mother H. :)


Surely you mean Sister Morphine.

LINK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-x0llLB9Uw
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 17, 2010, 06:44:43 pm
The high is amazing -- unlike anything else.  But yeah, it doesn't just make me wretch a couple of times like most people.  I literally vomit at least once an hour for a 24 hour period.

I could tell you all some rather fab stories of slumming off the Grand Concourse in the South Bronx in the early 90's with young Dominican boys scoring bags of dope and then getting plowed for hours in between the vomit and ingestion of bottles of Pepto Bismol.  Good times, and ever so adventurous for a little white girl from the landed gentry of Loudoun County.

I've also smoked crack under the stairwells of semi-abandoned project buildings while dispensing blowjobs.


Chile, you are like Kate Moss and Whitney rolled up in a fabulous little bundle.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 06:49:58 pm

Chile, you are like Kate Moss and Whitney rolled up in a fabulous little bundle.

Oh, I don't mess with any of these things anymore -- but I used to be a total gay version of Pete Doherty, including the penchant for Hedi Slimane designs.  You know you're messy when Kevin Aviance (of all people) comes up and says "your little crew carries on too much"

And for our readers who don't know:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTuzFNZftY
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 06:52:43 pm
... FEELING LIKE A LILY!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: BlueMoon on April 17, 2010, 06:54:12 pm
I see the future, it's. . . free pharmaceutical-grade smack for HIV patients.    8)

That should bring 'bugchasers' out of the woodwork.  Not to mention robbers, thieves, and burglars.   ::)
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 17, 2010, 06:56:48 pm
You know you're messy when Kevin Aviance (of all people) comes up and says "your little crew carries on too much"

And for our readers who don't know:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTuzFNZftY

Now that is a mess :)

Oh, and any self respecting queen who doesn't know who Miss Din Da Da is needs to go back to FAG101.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 07:01:59 pm
Now that is a mess :)

Oh, and any self respecting queen who doesn't know who Miss Din Da Da is needs to go back to FAG101.

Miss P has known that queen since she was a wannabe wallflower wagging her tail for me during college at Scandals nightclub in Richmond, VA.  I moved to NYC before she did, then she "reinvented" herself and tried to act like she didn't know who I was, so I had to read her.

Oh, and a mutual friend ran into her once in a bath house in Chicago and said she'd never seen something that large down there.  Can you imagine?
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 17, 2010, 07:09:56 pm
Miss P has known that queen since she was a wannabe wallflower wagging her tail for me during college at Scandals nightclub in Richmond, VA.  I moved to NYC before she did, then she "reinvented" herself and tried to act like she didn't know who I was, so I had to read her.

Oh, and a mutual friend ran into her once in a bath house in Chicago and said she'd never seen something that large down there.  Can you imagine?

Cunty, indeed.

Did you ever meet or work with Green Velvet (or whatever moniker Ms. Curtis Jones may have been using back in your dancin' days)?  I always found his stuff très fantastique.   
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 07:16:12 pm

Did you ever meet or work with Green Velvet (or whatever moniker Ms. Curtis Jones may have been using back in your dancin' days)?  I always found his stuff très fantastique.   

He's Chicago, not NYC.  It's Time for the Percolator!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: WillyWump on April 17, 2010, 08:16:31 pm
Never touched Heroin. Too bad Cocaine doesnt have the same effect, not that I partake in any snooty snoot....well not anymore.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 17, 2010, 08:20:23 pm
He's Chicago, not NYC.  It's Time for the Percolator!

Ah, I though that maybe he had been a guest DJ at some point at the Factoria.  Cameras ready, prepare to flash.

Anyhoo, no more hijackin' of this precious thread about skag.

 
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: mecch on April 17, 2010, 08:20:42 pm
Snorting and smoking heroin never makes me vomit or any other of the knarly effects you guys report. Also the high doing it this way isn't all that special.  I never got the hype but maybe I dont have the opiate switch.

I saw rich addicts with good doctors who made it to tritherapy and then had spectacular Lazarus rebirths.  That stuff turns your insides into stainless steel.  If it doesn't kill you or put you in the poorhouse, it seems to make a few people indestructible.  
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Hellraiser on April 17, 2010, 08:25:03 pm
I did X once...you know...and stuff...
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: WillyWump on April 17, 2010, 08:54:23 pm
I did X once...you know...and stuff...

 X was my gateway drug (I skipped right over Marijuana) which led to Cocaine which led to forced Rehab.

I remember one particularly hot night on X, my ex and I wrapped ouselves up in christmas lights  (mine blinking, his non blinking) and went at it.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2010, 09:06:26 pm
I have done enough morphine that the rat neurons in my brain are good to go for a couple of lifetimes .

When I was on morphine sulfate liquid it made me tired so I added a smidgen of cocaine so when I went to work and drank a bottle of vodka I wouldn't get droopy . I have no idea how I made it through those years but I did .
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Moffie65 on April 17, 2010, 09:20:42 pm
Chatted with sweetie at dinner about this thread, and he said, "Morphene is pretty nice, but only snorted it".  I woudn't know, never did it, but am up to a trial dose.  :)

Personally, weed, 'shrooms and anything God created is OK in my book.

Why can't you buy coca leaves at Krogers?  'Shrooms also.  Shit, it should be in every produce section in the country.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Jeff G on April 17, 2010, 09:28:07 pm
Shrooms rock . The last time I did shrooms was in Amsterdam . My buddy was high as a kite and running his mouth non stop even as he fell head over heels down one of those narrow staircase's coming out of a bar .

He never stopped telling his story as he went tumbling down the stairs and into the street where he laid there on his back and finished up his tale as if it were only natural .
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 17, 2010, 10:19:58 pm
Slightly off-topic, but not completely. 

I'm watching Contact right now and it always reminds me of this hilarious time in 1999 when I was in San Juan, PR.  I met this guy on the trip who was from Texas (though he was Puerto Rican) and I went back to his hotel room and he had the most massive supply of drugs.  X, Ice, Ketamine and some percocets or some such.  I'm not only a human hoover but I'm famous for carelessly combining all matters of material in rather unwise manners.  So at one point I'm so ridiculously high and this guy is trying his utmost to insert his needle dick up my ass, and finally I just scream "Hold me tight!  I'm fucking Jody Foster in Contact!"
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: odyssey on April 17, 2010, 11:09:01 pm
You all are fucking hilarious! I swear this thread cracks me up! Addiction is really serious, but some of these stories are awfully funny!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: GNYC09 on April 17, 2010, 11:26:11 pm
source (http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/637992.html)

"The painkiller morphine may help protect against HIV-associated dementia, says a new study.

"Georgetown University Medical Center researchers found that morphine protected rat neurons from HIV toxicity, a discovery that could lead to the development of new drugs to treat people with HIV-related dementia, which causes depression, anxiety and physical and mental problems.

"'We believe that morphine may be neuroprotective in a subset of people infected with HIV,' lead investigator Italo Mocchetti, a professor of neuroscience, said in a Georgetown news release.

"He and his colleagues conducted the study because they knew that some people with HIV who are heroin users never develop HIV brain dementia. Morphine is similar to heroin."


Fab. So you don't get brain dementia but your teeth fall out.
I've been on morphine (in the hospital) and it was nice but not something I'd ever seek out...
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: MitchMiller on April 18, 2010, 12:07:47 am
Why morphine or heroin?  How about the nicer member of the familiy:  opium.  Surprised nobody mentioned opiated thai sticks... or just plain opium buttered rolling papers that make kick ass doobies... and I've never felt anything but good from that stuff.   
Maybe opium is obsolete now that heroin is pure enough to smoke.... all that stuff was many years ago in my glory days.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Strayboy74 on April 18, 2010, 01:10:53 am
I never did heroin...  it's probably for the best. ;)   Speed already made me want to get plowed for hours. :/    dunno that the vomiting would be fun, either.  :/
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: PeteNYNJ on April 18, 2010, 03:03:30 am
Ladies please

Heroin - snorted and I barfed all over my friends new Gucci
Morphine - given in hospital and was a godsend with a nice warm feeling
Meth - led to very smelly annoying people at my house when I just wanted to hide in the closet
X - VERY fun in the 90s but since sucks.  My antidepressants make that shit a waste of time.
K - I carried a cat out of my friends house because i thought it would be fun to take it to a dance club
Pills - boring
Cocaine----paradise by the dashboard light but after a 2 day high it left me and my cat staring under my door looking for the police.
Acid - mistakenly took about 3 tabs and thought the bar I was in exploded.  I accosted some nice lady on the street who thankfully directed the cab driver home.

Guess what though - booze made me do 10 times stupider things than any of them!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: leese43 on April 18, 2010, 04:58:26 am
Shrooms rock . The last time I did shrooms was in Amsterdam . My buddy was high as a kite and running his mouth non stop even as he fell head over heels down one of those narrow staircase's coming out of a bar .

He never stopped telling his story as he went tumbling down the stairs and into the street where he laid there on his back and finished up his tale as if it were only natural .

Love this story, mad me LOL..nice start to the day.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: BT65 on April 18, 2010, 06:34:37 am
I had a $3000/week heroin habit when I was 17.  I had to switch from cocaine to heroin when I was 16 due to heart trouble.  I never had the puking and other ucky stuff described above.  It was a lovely high for me.  Had horrible consequences though, including things I did in order to purchase it.  I quit when I got pregnant, and it was quite a withdrawal.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: kev72 on April 18, 2010, 07:20:55 am
I had a $3000/week heroin habit when I was 17.  I had to switch from cocaine to heroin when I was 16 due to heart trouble.  I never had the puking and other ucky stuff described above.  It was a lovely high for me.  Had horrible consequences though, including things I did in order to purchase it.  I quit when I got pregnant, and it was quite a withdrawal.

Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Dachshund on April 18, 2010, 08:19:25 am
Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........

She is lovely, kicked her habit of many years ago and went on to finish college with honors. Don't confuse argumentative with honesty. At least you didn't try to hide your agenda this time. Oh brother is right.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Rev. Moon on April 18, 2010, 09:06:30 am
Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........

How dare you?  Seriously.  You are picking a fight with the wrong person and in the wrong thread, brother.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Jeff G on April 18, 2010, 09:21:00 am
She is lovely, kicked her habit of many years ago and went on to finish college with honors. Don't confuse argumentative with honesty. At least you didn't try to hide your agenda this time. Oh brother is right.


She is lovely and then some .

I waited a bit before I posted in this thread to see what direction it went ... and its a playfull one .
When I post stories about my past drug abuse I often use humor . I think most people realize it for what it is .

Its kinda like those old Cheech and Chong movies my mother didn't want me to see because she thought it glorified drug abuse . I loved those god awful movies back then and laughed my ass off but even as a kid I knew the real message was drugs can make smart folks into idiots . Thank god I got over the idiot part and got my life back on track .  

As for Betty ... She is not one to toot her own horn . She has used her degree to help feed and cloth the homeless . I think she is an inspiration and I admire her greatly .
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Alain on April 18, 2010, 09:25:41 am
Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........

Peace of sheet! U R

How Brotherly of you!
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 18, 2010, 10:07:42 am

As for Betty ... She is not one to toot her own horn . She has used her degree to help feed and cloth the homeless . I think she is an inspiration and I admire her greatly .

Many of us here admire her for many reasons, and Kevin is barking up the wrong tree. 
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 18, 2010, 04:37:59 pm
Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........

You should show more respect to Sister B. She is held in extremely high regard 'round here.

MtD
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Bucko on April 18, 2010, 05:06:51 pm
Smoking Opium remains one of the highlights of my life (though I never tried the big H).

And WTF's up with the diss on BT? Are you fucking nuts?
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: PeteNYNJ on April 18, 2010, 05:21:20 pm
Quote
Oh brother, and here is a person accusing me of having a "hidden agenda" in another thread because I suggested to the OP to adjust his medication. LOL Now I see why she trys to be so argumentative at $3,000 per week she must be Lovely........

Dude, how dare you judge anyone on this board, especially for the shit they did at 17!  Betty is one of  the most caring and helpful people on this board.  Do a little research on her past and imagine walking in her shoes.  I bet you wouldn't make it 10 steps.

Don't be a creep.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: BT65 on April 18, 2010, 07:01:03 pm
You all moved me to tears, seriously.  What awesome people I have as friends here.

As for Kev, well, I imagine he's stirring in his own doo-doo.  He wants to use my past to justify his own crazy advice in another thread, telling someone to use whatever amount of Valium the person wants, without regard of medical advice.  I remember doing stuff like that, when I was strung out, so more people would join me in my misery.  Kevin, you don't phase me, seriously.  If that's what you're trying to do, well, you lose.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: MarkB on April 18, 2010, 08:04:34 pm
Hi Betty

I came late to this thread, but just wanted to say that when I first posted here, frightened and devastated, you were one of the very first who stepped up to answer. You shone in the dark, then as now, like a star: thank you.

M x
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: skeebo1969 on April 19, 2010, 02:02:07 am


    When I was in treatment I met a guy who thought he bought heroin, but the drug dealer must have left it in his spice rack because he sold him meat tenderizer instead lol.  I guess the guy I was in treatment with couldn't tell the difference between the two, he had no less than 100 holes in his legs and some of them went straight to the bone...

    Myself, I've smoked Ivory soap conveniently cut in the shape of rock and all it did was give me a headache.....  oh, and also pissed me off quite a bit.
  
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: komnaes on April 19, 2010, 03:27:00 am
Hey Betty.. you all love you and you're way bigger than that..   ;D

BTW, talk about acid overdose..

Acid - mistakenly took about 3 tabs and thought the bar I was in exploded...

I once mistakenly (don't ask) took too much liquid acid before a concert (if you're curious, the band is called the Charlatans or Charlatans UK in North American) in Toronto in the early 90s. I think I have begun to "loss" it half way and the last my friends saw me that night was in the middle of it I walked out the venue - they just assumed I went out for a cig and when they didn't see at the end they assumed I left early (we were all on LSD)..

I woke up 2 days later in Centennial Park, not remember where I have been, what I have done, etc.. best trip ever. :D
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: next2u on April 19, 2010, 03:39:21 am
well im innocent. be careful, you don't want to cause anyone to go out and get a fix with all these euphoric recalls.

Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: BT65 on April 19, 2010, 04:44:20 am
Thanks Mark and Komnaes.  And Skeebo, in this old apartment house I lived in, my next door neighbors had a party.  Another girl who lived in the apartment house kept bugging them, thinking they had crack to sell.  So, they got their bar of Zest soap, and cut out what looked like a rock and sold it to her.  She was already messed up, as she always drank all her take-home Methadone.  She never questioned why the "rock" was a green shade, nor did she ever realize she was sold soap. :D
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Tim Horn on April 19, 2010, 08:19:14 am
As for Kev, well, I imagine he's stirring in his own doo-doo.  He wants to use my past to justify his own crazy advice in another thread, telling someone to use whatever amount of Valium the person wants, without regard of medical advice.  I remember doing stuff like that, when I was strung out, so more people would join me in my misery.  Kevin, you don't phase me, seriously.  If that's what you're trying to do, well, you lose.

Fret not. Kev will no longer be gracing us with his presence.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: skeebo1969 on April 19, 2010, 01:46:22 pm
Personally, weed, 'shrooms and anything God created is OK in my book.

Preach!!  Amen to that brother....
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Roie on April 19, 2010, 02:33:57 pm
i hope the do similar studies with thc. speaking of thc, where is queen?


Not just Queen.
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: tednlou2 on April 20, 2010, 01:22:19 am
$3,000 a week?  Wow. 
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: Hellraiser on April 20, 2010, 01:24:27 am
So, where's my medicinal heroin?
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: komnaes on April 26, 2010, 12:06:46 am
Just want to add that before this becomes a zombie thread...

MAGIC MUSHROOMS COULD HELP DEPRESSION!! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-395143/Magic-mushrooms-help-depression-say-scientists.html)

Now, way better than heroin IMO...
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: PeteNYNJ on April 26, 2010, 02:31:07 am
Tim - can we lock this thread?   I don't like Betty's past being a highlight.   
Title: Re: Heroin. It does the body good.
Post by: BT65 on April 26, 2010, 04:50:40 am
Tim - can we lock this thread?   I don't like Betty's past being a highlight.   

Aw, thanks Pete, but I don't think Shauny (Komanes) meant anything by it.  I know people who don't understand addiction are probably shocked by the $3000/week figure, but those of us who have been there, understand perfectly.  That's alright.  Shauny is a sweet enough person, so I didn't take any offense.  Thanks again, though.