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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: TBYUER on January 25, 2014, 12:54:02 pm

Title: Possible exposure
Post by: TBYUER on January 25, 2014, 12:54:02 pm
I met a guy online a few hours ago. Before meeting I asked if he was negative n he said yes.

When we met I performed oral sex on him. Later we had anal sex. He had the condom on most of the time. However, there was one part where he put the head of his penis in (just the head). It was in and out, and he performed that action for three times, before I asked him to put the condom on. He later cummed on my face.

After the deed, I asked him again about his status due to the incident, and he said he was negative and was tested a few weeks ago. He said he was just "probing" so it should be fine.

So, considering everything, should I get the PEP? Only the head of his penis was on and he took it out immediately. Would I still be at risk? I feel extremely worried now.

Thank you
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: Jeff G on January 25, 2014, 01:10:41 pm
Its rare for a HIV transmission to result from a brief dipping episode so I would not recommend PEP .

You did have a risk and will need to test at 6 weeks past any possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm the result .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: TBYUER on January 25, 2014, 01:23:02 pm
Thanks for the swift response. I am really unsure whether to get the PEP as I heard about the side effects.

Two things that made me more worried than I usually would be is
1) His face was very thin, n I heard one of the side effects of HIV treatment is the thinning of the face and muscle wasting.
2) After his "dipping" actions, he asked me to insert his penis inside me, that was when I requested the condom. This sort of suggest that he does engage in bareback behaviour.

Also, just to be more informed, is "dipping" less risky? Is the HIV virus only capable of infecting cells further inside the rectum? The thing is many guys seem to enjoy rubbing their penis on the lip of my anus as a form of foreplay. Is this an activity I should avoid?

Thank you n sorry if I sound ignorant I dont really have much experience n its hard to distinguish correct information from incorrect ones.
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: Joe K on January 25, 2014, 02:15:58 pm
... Two things that made me more worried than I usually would be is
1) His face was very thin, n I heard one of the side effects of HIV treatment is the thinning of the face and muscle wasting.
2) After his "dipping" actions, he asked me to insert his penis inside me, that was when I requested the condom. This sort of suggest that he does engage in bareback behaviour.

Also, just to be more informed, is "dipping" less risky? Is the HIV virus only capable of infecting cells further inside the rectum? The thing is many guys seem to enjoy rubbing their penis on the lip of my anus as a form of foreplay. Is this an activity I should avoid?...

You cannot tell the status of a person, based on appearance, only testing will confirm a status.  Someone rubbing their penis against your anus, is not a risk for HIV infection.  Use condoms for all penetrative sex and you will avoid HIV infection.

Joe
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: Jeff G on January 25, 2014, 02:48:48 pm
As I said previously dipping rarely leads to HIV infections but it should be avoided because it is a risk and can also lead to the impression that you are willing to bare back and one thing lead to another in the heat of the moment .

Frottage or rubbing is not a risk because it does not involve penetration . HIV is far to fragile to be a risk factor in Frottage or rubbing .

I would expect a negative result when you test .
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: TBYUER on January 25, 2014, 07:15:13 pm
So I have been reading all previous threads on the risk of receptive "dipping" and understand that the risk is low. However, there is still a risk and I am thinking about getting the PEP just in case. How serious is the side effect of the PEP? Is it worth taking it for the peace of mind? I read on this site that some ppl got infected through unprotected receptive dipping so I am really worried. If I do test positive after 3 months I feel be feeling like such an idiot for not being willing to endure some short term discomfort and catching something so permanent. Also am I able to have sex while on PEP? Would it affect my appearance?

If I do decide to get the PEP I do hope to start it within 24 hours of exposure.

Thanks again. I greatly appreciate the advise I am getting
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: Jeff G on January 25, 2014, 07:29:21 pm
Its your choice if you want to pursue PEP . The side effects can be from zero to significant from person to person . PEP extends to testing period to 6 weeks post pep and again at 3 months to confirm it . PEP will not affect your appearance , it takes years on them for some HIV meds to do that if at all . 

Pep is effective if taken within 72 hours of exposure .
Title: Re: Possible exposure
Post by: Ann on January 26, 2014, 07:48:31 am
TBY,

You need to stop relying on what people tell you about their hiv status and start assuming ANYONE you hook up with is hiv positive and protect yourself accordingly by using condoms for any anal (or vaginal) intercourse. Very often people only assume they are hiv negative and sometimes people lie.

Unless you're in the habit of regular hiv testing (like you should be), for all you know you might be hiv positive too and in reality be one of those people who only thinks he's hiv negative.

You should also be regularly testing for all the other, MUCH more easily transmitted infections. While this dipping episode was on the lower end of the risk scale, you were very much more at risk for STIs like chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis.

All of these STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the ONLY way to know is to test. You should be aware that syphilis shares a three month testing window with hiv for a conclusive negative result. Syphilis is much more prevalent than hiv, so test.

Ann