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Offline WillyWump

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Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« on: December 21, 2010, 09:05:03 pm »
My nuts are noticably shrinking, so much so that I am beginning to become self conscious about them. It's like walking out of Macy's with a nice fancy bag, but nothing in it.

I am injecting 1 ml of Testosterone Cyponate every 10-14 days for the last 3 months.

For those of you that ahve been on replacement therapy is there anything I can do to stop this? Someone mentioned using Estrogen on top of the Test but I am not sure my doc would be down with prescribing me estrogen.

Ideas?

Also, If my Test levels are in normal range this next visit will the doc take me off the test immediately? Or am I in a vicious cycle of having to take the Test indefinitly?

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 10:18:24 pm »
Well, you're going to get the I told you so from me! LOL. Testicular shrinkage is a common side effect of steroid (testosterone) use in men. Why do you think bodybuilders have tiny balls? Another possible side effect is breast growth. Hopefully you haven't had that yet. The ball shrinkage is because the testosterone you are taking is causing your body to not need to produce its own. Breast growth comes from the extra testosterone being converted into an estrogen like hormone through I process I'm not quite sure of, but know it happens.

Talk to your doc ASAP Wumpster! I don't want you not to be able to fill out those briefs at AMG next year!

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 10:20:29 pm »
My nuts shrunk up years ago when I was injecting Testosterone but went back to normal when I stopped .

I was told by my doctor I would never be able to stop hormone replacement therapy and acheave normal levels but I had no problems maintaining my levels after I stopped the injections .  
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 03:19:21 am »
For what's it worth, I think small balls are cute.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 06:59:30 am »
I have a lot of expertise in this area.  If you'd like to send me private pics, I'll be glad to take a look. ;D
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 08:04:08 am »
Well, you're going to get the I told you so from me! LOL. Testicular shrinkage is a common side effect of steroid (testosterone) use in men. Why do you think bodybuilders have tiny balls? Another possible side effect is breast growth. Hopefully you haven't had that yet. The ball shrinkage is because the testosterone you are taking is causing your body to not need to produce its own. Breast growth comes from the extra testosterone being converted into an estrogen like hormone through I process I'm not quite sure of, but know it happens.


odyssey

I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 08:58:46 am »
I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

-W


Pushups will indeed keep your pec's nice and hard, but won't keep your male mammary glands from growing.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 09:57:39 am »
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I prefer the word Moobs :)

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 10:31:26 am »
There are some suggestions in this thread on another message board. Make sure you speak to your doctor before you try anything. And google "shrinking testicles" - with the quote marks - and you'll get plenty of hits.

Estrogen is the last thing you want to take. It's excessive estrogen that is causing your problem in the first place.



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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 10:40:40 am »
I understand WHY it happens, I'm asking if there is anything I can do or take to stem the shrinkage. For instance, I added Saw Palmetto to prevent hair loss, is there anything I can add to help the balls? All my searches turn up nada.

No titties, my pushups are keeping that area nice and hard.

JG- Good to know they will return to normal size once I stop, hopefully after a few months I can start titrating the testo down.

-W

Jeez, do you think I have any idea. You of anyone here should know that I don't have any balls to shrink from my usage of testosterone, lol. But yeah, I agree with Ann. Estrogen is really not the way to go. That will most likely make the problem worse, not to mention increase your chances of man titty growth. I still say talk to your doc about this, he or she will probably have some good advice. I've never really been one for getting medical opinions over the 'net.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 11:48:01 am »
I don't have any balls to shrink

I disagree, Odyssey. I think you have more balls than most. ;)
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 11:51:48 am »
I disagree, Odyssey. I think you have more balls than most. ;)

Aww shucks Ann *blushes*. Well then, I guess we'll have to say my balls are shrink proof!  :P ;D

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12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 12:39:30 pm »
I have not had that problem, WW...

Let me make a suggestion....go to FortTroff website....get you a "bull nuts" ball stretcher....

What have you got to lose?  LOL    PM me for details, if you're interested.....

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 12:42:50 pm »
I've been taking testosterone for 3 years and don't notice anything out of the ordinary.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 12:44:28 pm »
I've been taking testosterone for 3 years and don't notice anything out of the ordinary.
 

With your balls or Willy's ?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 01:18:17 pm »
 

With your balls or Willy's ?

I've also been taking testosterone for over three years and I've never had a problem with Willy's balls either.  ;D :D ;) 8) ::) :P
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 02:00:39 pm »
Accord to Harold M. Reed, aka "The Penis Doctor", silicon injections are not the way to go:

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SILICONE INJECTIONS IN MY SCROTUM DUE TO YEARS OF STEROID USE LEAVING MY TESTICLES SOMEWHAT ATROPHIED AND A LOT OF EMPTY SCROTAL SPACE. IS THIS A SERVICE YOU WOULD PERFORM?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 02:28:11 pm »

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 04:31:40 pm »
While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone?  Maybe its a side effect you make peace with until perhaps the time you don't need the testosterone and your balls kick into action again.  if you get good wood and the balls still feel good, isn't that still AOK?

I read the letter about testicle implants.  That seems pretty cool if one were to loose one or two, but how would they do that if someone already has two tiny balls. Wouldn't it start to feel or look a bit mutant?  Not that it can't be natural. A guy in my college had three nuts. He was legendary among the ladies cause he was also well hung, and rich to boot. 
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 05:03:36 pm »
There are some suggestions in this thread on another message board.


Thanks Ann, awesome link. Lot of good info in there, I've made notes about some of the possible remedies and will be talking to my doctor about them.

While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone? 

The shrinking balls are definitly not a deal killer.  I am thoroughly pleased with the upside of testo replacement, such as the energy, etc... 

The testicle implants are a "Hell no" and will never, ever consider that.

The ball size is not a big deal at this point, but they are noticably smaller so I want to nip it in the bud if possible, although I doubt it is even noticable to anyone else (we are our own worst critic).

As far as the titties that WOULD be a deal killer, I would definitly stop the therapy if I thought I was getting growing knockers.

-Will

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 05:05:37 pm »
While the shrinking balls are unfortunate, are you otherwise happy with the effects of the testosterone?  Maybe its a side effect you make peace with until perhaps the time you don't need the testosterone and your balls kick into action again.  if you get good wood and the balls still feel good, isn't that still AOK?

I read the letter about testicle implants.  That seems pretty cool if one were to loose one or two, but how would they do that if someone already has two tiny balls. Wouldn't it start to feel or look a bit mutant?  Not that it can't be natural. A guy in my college had three nuts. He was legendary among the ladies cause he was also well hung, and rich to boot. 

Yeah, I agree. I can't imagine they would use those silicone testicle implants on someone with two already existent balls, even if they were on the smallish side. They do use them to replace testicles that have to be removed, or in the case of us transguys, to create testicles when we have bottom surgery. But if you put a ball where there already is one, that just would be weird!

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11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
04/01/14 CD4- 898  42%   VL-

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 05:09:25 pm »
PS @Matty- thanks for your comforting raisin post. I can always count on you to cheer me up.

Merry fuckin' Christmas, doll. :)

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 06:55:22 am »
Is this drop in testosterone related to HIV or a medication side effect?

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 11:01:57 am »
Is this drop in testosterone related to HIV or a medication side effect?

That's the golden question. I still cannot get my doctor to commit to saying HIV caused my low T. She says there are no relaible studies indicating such. My level was so low that she believes it was an issue prior to being diagnosed. The main concern with her was the effects Low T + Truvada would have on my bones, thus she placed me on replacement therapy, secondary to that was the fatigue I was experiencing.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 07:17:38 pm »
That's the golden question. I still cannot get my doctor to commit to saying HIV caused my low T. She says there are no relaible studies indicating such. My level was so low that she believes it was an issue prior to being diagnosed. The main concern with her was the effects Low T + Truvada would have on my bones, thus she placed me on replacement therapy, secondary to that was the fatigue I was experiencing.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2010, 07:41:25 pm »
Did you get a bone scan?

No, I've never had a D Scan. I suppose I should request one.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2010, 06:22:24 am »
No, I've never had a D Scan. I suppose I should request one.

-W
Yeah, you have to requet it for your doctor wont unless brake your bones due to calcuim loss.  You might try Vitamin D to help boost your testosterone levels.  here's and article

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2010, 08:10:13 am »
Will,
With our use of testosterone injections and now even the implants, we suffer from shrinking balls also!
To keep ours normal size, we use Pregnyl.
This comes in two ampules, one of the pregnyl and the other is a solvent to make 1ml.
(Each ampule lasts about a month.)
I load 5 of the 1ml syringes with the pregnyl and inject 3 units daily sub-Q.
Yes I reuse the syringes until they are empty and never had an issue, as loading each with only 3 units is not practical. The last injection can have a dull needle! (keep refrigerated)
Not sure which country my partner uses to purchase the stuff, but it works for the BB balls.

This is not a suggestion or advice for anyone, I am only stating what we do with our doctor's approval.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2010, 09:25:46 am »
Will,
With our use of testosterone injections and now even the implants, we suffer from shrinking balls also!
To keep ours normal size, we use Pregnyl.
This comes in two ampules, one of the pregnyl and the other is a solvent to make 1ml.
(Each ampule lasts about a month.)
I load 5 of the 1ml syringes with the pregnyl and inject 3 units daily sub-Q.
Yes I reuse the syringes until they are empty and never had an issue, as loading each with only 3 units is not practical. The last injection can have a dull needle! (keep refrigerated)
Not sure which country my partner uses to purchase the stuff, but it works for the BB balls.

This is not a suggestion or advice for anyone, I am only stating what we do with our doctor's approval.

Good luck,
Hoover and Dr. T
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2010, 10:39:06 am »
lolwut... you folks inject stuff in your balls for cosmetic reasons?
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« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2010, 10:24:12 pm »
Is it just your balls that shrink on testosterone or does your johnson shrink as well.   Got to tell ya.  It seems to be something new every day.
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« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2010, 11:27:34 pm »
Testicle injections?  Am I missing something here?
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2010, 12:54:28 am »
Re the male boobs side-effect, I've read it is primarily caused by coming off T too fast.  I was contemplating trying steroids for vanity many years ago and bought a book called something like "The Steroid Bible."  It warned against coming off testosterone too fast.  If you do so, your body is effectively void of testosterone until your gonads can ramp up production again... which can take weeks. In the meantime, you begin to develop female characteristics.... the male boobs.  I seem to remember that you should take a full six weeks to "cycle down" off steroids.  It's a rapid climb up and a gradual descent back down.

Did you get a second opinion before starting testosterone?  I would guess your nuts are shrinking because they were functional before... that is producing testosterone.  They shrink because they no longer need to produce it.  You're injecting all you need so they shut down.  If your T was low, I would think the dose injected should be calibrated to bring it up to normal levels and not more. 

I would do some reading on this.  Given steroids have been used for nearly forty years, there's plenty of written documentation available.

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« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2010, 01:04:13 am »
I'll only purchase underwear at Macy's.  If you want a "fancy bag" you'd do better to head to Neimans.  Perhaps this is the source of the OP's problems? 

And yes, Miss P could have told you so.  Plus they have valet parking.
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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2010, 11:46:20 am »
Is it just your balls that shrink on testosterone or does your johnson shrink as well.   

For me, it's just my testicles. My willy seems to have grown.

  Got to tell ya.  It seems to be something new every day.

Wut? what are you talking about?

Testicle injections?  Am I missing something here?

Who is injecting their balls? Hoover? I don't think he implied that?? or did he? I'm sure he is injecting the Preg sub Q in his butt or leg.

Did you get a second opinion before starting testosterone?  If your T was low, I would think the dose injected should be calibrated to bring it up to normal levels and not more. 


No second opinion. My T level checked at 32 (where, if I recall correctly, 250 is the low end of normal), I was placed on gel for 6 months, it rose to 40ish, was switched to patches for 6 or so months where I rose to 71. Doc switched me to Injections and I have not had a reading yet (get that next week).

I'll only purchase underwear at Macy's.  If you want a "fancy bag" you'd do better to head to Neimans.  Perhaps this is the source of the OP's problems? 


Thanks P, your help is always invaluable.

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« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2010, 02:14:06 pm »
Willy When i said it seems to be something new everyday i meant that i discover new things about this virus every day.  I hear about a new side effect or something each day it seems.  And now i discover shrinking balls! Whats next? 

I guess since its making your little willy bigger is a positive trade off to the shrinking balls.  God giveth a little :-)
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« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2010, 02:21:21 pm »
little willy ... snort , giggle .
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2010, 02:50:04 pm »
Sub-Q injections go in the arms, thighs, butt cheeks or stomach.
Speaking of which, I forgot to inject us this morning!

Will, with shrinking balls, you can also start loosing your hair.
You wouldn't believe the regimen we use to keep that in check.
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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2010, 03:13:55 pm »

It is hell trying to stay young.


Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

On the other hand, Miss P fully embraces her Palm Beach blue-hair dowager status (though without all of the Lily Pulitzer prints).  And I'm still younger.
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« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2010, 04:27:14 pm »
Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

On the other hand, Miss P fully embraces her Palm Beach blue-hair dowager status (though without all of the Lily Pulitzer prints).  And I'm still younger.
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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2010, 04:35:08 pm »
in dog years...

now now Dragoon, don't be a bully
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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2010, 09:04:35 pm »
Wumpy lies about his age on his profile -- don't be fooled.

And I'm still younger.

ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

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Re: Testosterone and My Incredile Shrinking Balls
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2010, 09:20:42 pm »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

And your youtube account with videos of your kids says you're 47.  Girl, don't make me go there.  Just because your testicles are the size of peas doesn't mean you get a free pass out of Failville.
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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2010, 09:22:27 pm »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

Willy is freakin' hot, so who cares how old he is? I'm only 24 but I'd go out with him. He's good looking, has a great personality, and is sweet and genuine. And as he says, he's younger than you old queens :P. Rock on Wumpster!

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« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2010, 09:32:42 pm »
old queens?

I resemble that remark
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« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2010, 09:37:39 pm »
And your youtube account with videos of your kids says you're 47.  Girl, don't make me go there.  Just because your testicles are the size of peas doesn't mean you get a free pass out of Failville.

47, Puhhhhleaze Nancy. Dont be jealous cause Im purtier than you and have big testosterone guns.

Not sure what your looking at on Youtube, lol. Does it have us riding a Harley? If not it's not mine sweetums

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« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2010, 09:46:04 pm »
ok ok. I will be 43 next month, which makes me 2 years younger than you...2 very virile years younger might I add.

-W

It don't matter how old you say your are -- once someone, legitimately, calls you Grandpa --- you're old.   ;)

I was a mere 36 when that started -- and I'll be a proud 47 in Feb.  Remember -- getting old beats the alternative.

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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2010, 09:54:48 pm »
It don't matter how old you say your are -- once someone, legitimately, calls you Grandpa --- you're old.   ;)


sigh. yes, that's true.
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« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2010, 10:27:38 pm »
47, Puhhhhleaze Nancy. Dont be jealous cause Im purtier than you and have big testosterone guns.

Not sure what your looking at on Youtube, lol. Does it have us riding a Harley? If not it's not mine sweetums

-W

Oh, it's yours honey -- now just scan your license and birth certificate and let's have us a good chuckle.

I'd hate to see how many inches you add onto your mancunt profile.
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« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2010, 10:46:19 pm »
Oh, it's yours honey -- now just scan your license and birth certificate and let's have us a good chuckle.

I'd hate to see how many inches you add onto your mancunt profile.

I have to subtract so I dont scare the sissies away.

My Youtube thingy doesnt have a birthdate in it, buuuuuut whatevs.

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