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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: sr on July 14, 2009, 09:58:24 pm

Title: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 14, 2009, 09:58:24 pm
Hi,

Recently I have been to a strip bar. Then a girl and i went to the VIP room. There she said that we can have mutual mastrubation. We were on a couch.. she lied down and started mastrubating... i was also on the couch facing her..

She squirted on the couch a couple of times.. I have touched the squirt accidentally and still i was mastrubating my penis.. [ Would this lead to any HIV infection?]

After she squirted first time, i bent over her while she was mastrubating second time.. i feel i have touched with my penis on the dildo with which she was mastrubating .. this all happened when i bent over her to kiss her.. [Would this lead to any HIV infection?]

What would have happened if a few droplets from the squirt lodged onto my penis (either on urethra or foreskin) while she was squirting herself [Would this lead to any HIV infection?]

I am really scared and frightened. Pls. help me out.

Thanks



Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 14, 2009, 10:12:07 pm
You were never at risk.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 14, 2009, 10:38:01 pm
i have touched with my penis (may be foreskin or urethra) the dildo which she was using vigorously to mastrubate herself ... even after the first time squirt/female ejaculation she had ..

pls. kindly advise me on HIV in this case..





Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 14, 2009, 10:39:36 pm
No, HIV is not transmitted outside its host.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 14, 2009, 10:52:21 pm
My last question..

Just to make myself comfortable :)

"She was using the dildo at the time.. when i touched the tip of penis to it.. [ at that time she was moving the dilldo in and out of the vagina]  "

Thanks
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 14, 2009, 10:56:03 pm
No matter how many spins you want to add it's not going to change the fact that you did not have a risk of contracting HIV.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: Ann on July 15, 2009, 03:58:55 am
sr,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Nothing you did or had done to you at the strip club was a risk for hiv infection. It doesn't matter that you came into contact with her vaginal fluids. It happened OUTSIDE the body and therefore was not a risk.

It's not just sex workers you need to be careful with.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 15, 2009, 08:06:48 am
Ann,

If any interaction happens with vaginal fluid/menstrual blood ,maybe immediately of out of the host's body, .. may be this interaction happens with a more receptive organ such as tip of the penis (urethra/foreskin)..
would there be any risk?

** [I am just concerned how long will the HIV virus outside the host will stay infectious?]

** One more thing i feel i had a small scrath on the tip of one finger while this episode happened..

Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 15, 2009, 08:19:36 am
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: Ann on July 15, 2009, 08:33:39 am
sr,

As I said before, hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Once it finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. If there were anything in your situation that was a risk, believe me, we'd tell you. You were NOT at risk. Not when your penis touched any fluid, and not if your cut came into contact with any fluid. NO RISK.

Ann
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 15, 2009, 06:28:09 pm
Hi,

One final question -- this i forgot to ask in the previous ones -- pls. let me go ahead with this..

While the strip bar girl was on the couch and i facing her she was mastrubating her pussy and anus..
My question is i have touched twice or thrice on her anus lips with the finger.. would this lead to any HIV virus infection..

[I am not sure how wide her anus lip were open and not sure of any cuts on my fingers]

Pls. advise me on this..
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: anniebc on July 15, 2009, 07:12:23 pm
You need to start paying attention and reading the advice you have already been given..Ann has already answered your questions..so just in case you missed it please read it again..and MOVE ON.


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As I said before, hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Once it finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. If there were anything in your situation that was a risk, believe me, we'd tell you. You were NOT at risk. Not when your penis touched any fluid, and not if your cut came into contact with any fluid. NO RISK.

If you insist on coming back with the same questions you will be given a TO (Time Out)

Jan
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 15, 2009, 07:18:39 pm
I am not sure how wide her anus lip were open -- if by chance my finger crosses her anus lips drops inside her anus (for a fraction of a second)
then that would be a violation of the statement "Once outside the Host HIV does not transmit"
Thatz why i came with this question again.. pls don't take this otherwise..



Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: Andy Velez on July 15, 2009, 07:22:49 pm
It doesn't matter how open her anus was and how you touched it with fingers or even your lips. Nothing you have reported would have put you in danger of HIV transmission.

Read these words and take them in: NO RISK. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

Get on with your life.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: anniebc on July 15, 2009, 07:32:34 pm
Move on, this is your last chance, one more post and you are going to be given a TO..please consider this a warning.

Jan
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 15, 2009, 07:59:22 pm
would this mean i cannot ask another question?

Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 15, 2009, 08:05:00 pm
You can't ask a question on Masturbation.
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 16, 2009, 07:26:46 am
I guess this part of my question is unanswered in "I fondling with ass lips of strip bar girl" -- what if i had small cut or sore on my finger while i was fondling with her ass lips, because Andy asked me not to get worried about how deep her anus was open or how i touched with my finger -- but nothing was specified about the cuts or sores on my finger ..

This is my final question .. promise .. no more is going to come..
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: RapidRod on July 16, 2009, 07:29:11 am
Yes it is going to be your last question for at least 28 days. You were warned..
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: sr on July 16, 2009, 07:40:58 am
RapidRod pls. answer my question before banning me.. i would be very happy once this question is answered.. i will no longer need any more explanation..
Title: Re: Mastrubation -- strip bar
Post by: Ann on July 16, 2009, 07:53:57 am
sr,

Fingering, whether you have cuts on your fingers or not, whether you're fingering a vagina or an asshole, is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Hiv can only latch onto and infect a very few, very specific cell types. These cells are NOT found in the upper layers of the skin.

These cells ARE found inside your anus, inside the lining of your urethra (where you pee/cum from) and on the inside of the foreskin. This is why all you have to do to protect yourself against hiv is USE CONDOMS for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently. It really is that simple!

And yes, I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

Ann