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protected oral sex
« on: January 08, 2009, 06:02:19 am »
how you going people?

I wish you all a very happy and a prosperous new year. Now my query is, i engaged in protected vaginal sex, and protected oral sex with an escort on 31st DEC. Initially, she gave me protected blow job, and the condom was intact. Later, i engaged, in protected vaginal sex, however i did not ejaculate, upon finishing, when i removed my penis, i saw the condom intact and covering my pee-hole. Now, Inspite of this iam worried, i am not feeling well, feel warmish, and perhaps trying to connect a simple cold to ARS.

Moreover, i asked the escort about testing and she advised they usually test at 3 months and have to submit the certificate at the place where they carry their business, ensuring they are fit.Please am going nuts, should i test?

Common sense says, i am fine, i mean, i have had protected sex in past with my girlfriends, friends, but the thought of HIV didn't pass my mind, maybe aim discriminating the escort and concluding on the basis of her profession, which is wrong, and aim sorry, but aim so worried. I mean i would be getting married to my sweetheart in march and i really dint want all to go away...

Any help is much appreciated.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 06:17:58 am »
You had protected sex. You were never at risk of contracting HIV.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 06:21:28 am »
You had protected sex. You were never at risk of contracting HIV.

Dear Rapid Rod,

I appreciate your quick response, however how do i go about from here in terms of HIV? Is it fear/anxiety or genuine concern?

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 06:27:05 am »
You did not have a risk of contracting HIV from correctly using a condom. Take the time to read the transmission lesson. You can find the link in the "Welcome" thread.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 06:32:12 am »
Thanks,

I am sure it will help me alto...although i wouldn't mind getting some reassurance from some more people, if that happens! but then should i test? i am sorry for getting unnerving, but i need to know the future course of action...

Yes, i went through the thread, it is helpful

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 08:25:11 am »
very,

You didn't have a risk. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 08:00:09 am »
G'day people,

I have just had an episode, and i thought i might as well ask you blokes! I met a friend today who was upset as she lefth er boyfriend of 10 years, we had beers and some food and perhaps as you all may know, one thing led to another...

Initially we kissed, and then later and while going with flow we undressed. i sucked her nipples,gave her oral sex, fingered her, she was on top of me, naked. Two occasions, where i  felt i might have have had a brief encounter was, when, maybe once with my underwear on, my penis was right beneath her vagina. The next time, i was naked, my penis was gain right below her vagina. although, from whati  gather my foresking was over the penis and to my knowledge i did not enter her. Maybe some frottage. Three times i asked her whether she would want to have sex. But when she asked me, if i had protection, I said no, which was indeed the fact, i didnt have condoms ( how foolish of me to ask her).

Now, i am very worried about these incidents, i asked her to confirm if i entered her and she flatly refused. And i would beleive hero n that, as she might have  had an idea if i did. My second fear is i masturbated, using the same hand i fingered her.

She is going to come today with condoms, what should i do? i mean, in temrs of this incident...

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 08:46:27 am »
Please follow our rule and keep all of your entries in this same thread. I have merged your latest one with your previous.

The only question in what you are reporting is if there was penetration or not. I am assuming you are experienced enough to know the difference. Your penis against her vagina or rubbing against it is NOT penetration and is not risky. Nor is mutual masturbation nor you masturbating yourself after having fingered her.

As long as you always without exception use a condom everytime you have either vaginal or anal intercourse you are well protected against HIV.
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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2009, 03:01:34 am »
Sorry Andy,

I guess, i almost forgot about the rules, anyways, you are right, i am the one in a better position to judge whether i penetrated or not... i dont think i did, but in anxiety, thought process gets kinda stuffled!

One more thing,

since i eat nails on my fingers, there were a couple of really downsized nails and the border surrounding them, i fingered with those fingers... i am going insane i guess, am i at risk?

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2009, 03:37:26 am »
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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2009, 08:55:20 am »
No, these details you continue to add in don't make a bit of difference. Yours was not a risky situation since this is more about fears and feelings rather than any real risk through penetration. Period. End of story.

Get on with your life.
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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2009, 03:53:20 pm »
Thanks Andy,

Appreciate that, one last question, i promise from there on i shall get on with my life and never trouble again, as all my doubts would be cleared.

During this incident, i remember, she was naked and i had my underwear on, and in normal vaginal sex position, ( sorry if i am graphic) i was pushing in her( my penis against her vagina), dunno if i entered her, but yes, i did ejaculate in my underwear ( not inside her) would this be considered risky?

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2009, 03:57:36 pm »
No, rubbing and whatever else happened while your penis was still inside your underwear absolutely would not have put you at risk for HIV transmission. And your ejaculating inside your shorts has no relevance whatsoever to any risk in the situation.
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G'day
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 06:38:40 am »
G'day to all,

About 5 weeks ago, i had unprotected vaginal sex, although it was for less than a minute. I never have indulged in unprotected sex, always used condoms, but i reckon i couldnt stop myself this time... anyways, i have been see'n this female for 5 weeks now, she has a boyfriend, but on a verge of breakup. I asked her, whether she was not positive, and that she wouldnt have sex with me if she had something. For over, 5 weeks i didnt have any symptoms, but as of today i am feling a bit feverish...How dumb was i? I certianly wanted to prevent myself from getting in this anxiety and panic... i know the risk is low, i know, she might not be infected, and perhaps i should trust people... but then, i just cant help myself... looking for some headway...

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« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 06:45:08 am by veryworriedinaustralia »

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 06:43:29 am »
Whilst, searching through forums, i came across a fact that i shouldnt use the word " clean", which i did, i am sorry, if i  offended anyone.... if i can rephrase, she said she was not HIV infected and that she wouldnt have sex with me if she had something....

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2009, 06:59:10 am »
Your questions will NOT be answered until you return to your orginal thread.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 07:08:26 am »
G'day to all,

About 5 weeks ago, i had unprotected vaginal sex, although it was for less than a minute. I never have indulged in unprotected sex, always used condoms, but i reckon i couldnt stop myself this time... anyways, i have been see'n this female for 5 weeks now, she has a boyfriend, but on a verge of breakup. I asked her, whether she was not positive, and that she wouldnt have sex with me if she had something. For over, 5 weeks i didnt have any symptoms, but as of today i am feling a bit feverish...How dumb was i? I certianly wanted to prevent myself from getting in this anxiety and panic... i know the risk is low, i know, she might not be infected, and perhaps i should trust people... but then, i just cant help myself... looking for some headway...

cheers

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 07:23:54 am »
You didn't pay attention to the advice that was given to you the first time now did you? 3 months post exposure testing will give you a conclusive test result.

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2009, 07:26:34 am »
Well yeah.... and maybe i am all to blame myself... for it... well, a lesson learnt the hard way

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2009, 07:29:03 am »
Yes you are to blame, it wasn't like you didn't know how to protect yourself.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2009, 07:54:29 am »
You've been asked before to follow our rule and keep all of your entries in this same thread. I've merged your latest on. Use only this thread if you have anything further to day.

Yes, YOU are responsbile for your own health. Even if that woman had told you that she's HIV negative, you would still need to get tested. And you have no business pursuing a previous partner to attempt to determine whether you have had a risk or not. Sometimes even a well-intentioned person doesn't know their accurate HIV status. So you need to get tested at 13 weeks past the most recent unprotected incident.

Since it was a single, brief incident the likelihood is you will test negative. HIV is not an easy virus to transmit. It's significantly harder to accomplish from female to male. That all works in your favor.

But you need to learn from this experience. Anytime you have intercourse without using a condom you are putting your life at risk. It is as stark and as simple as that.

As for what you are worrying about symptomatically, there is nothing HIV-specific in what you are concerned about. If they continue you should discuss them with your doctor.

This time I expect you will likely come out of this ok when you test. Just don't put yourself in this kind of situation again.

Cheers.  
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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2009, 05:22:35 am »
"perhaps i should trust people..."

Worried,

It's not about trust. Somewhere around a third to a quarter of people who have hiv don't even KNOW they have hiv. They might THINK they're hiv negative, but the reality could be quite different. Also, it is totally possible for a person to have an STI they're not aware of, as they don't always have obvious symptoms. You need to read and re-read my previous post to you.

You also need to wise up and stop having unprotected intercourse.

Ann
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 05:24:35 am by Ann »
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2009, 06:47:31 pm »
G'day,

After my last exposure i tested negative and things were just fine. I said to myself i would use condoms from now on no matter what and thats what happened last night, the girl i came hom with forced me not use condoms,but i said, naaah, if you wish to have sex and with me i am using them and finally she agreed...:)

Now, i fear i might have caught something, the condom looked fine when i pulled out and my sperm was collected where it should... besides i water tested it and it was alright...

is it like i worry for nothing? do i again need to test for this exposure?

Cheers

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2009, 09:18:53 pm »
please someone reply...thanks iam so worried now

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 09:27:20 pm »
You know what are replies were going to be before posting. Get on with your life.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 09:41:41 pm »
Mate,

yes i did know what the replies were....but i just cant figure out why the heck i am so obssessed with it? i mean i used a condom it was fine...so why bother? but i keep on thinking about what ifs...

thanks for your reply

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 10:20:36 pm »
Very,

Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. You didn't have a risk.

As for your obsession, we cannot help you with that here. You'll have to seek out a therapist to get help with that.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2009, 05:07:12 am »
Cheers Ann...

But do i need to test?

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2009, 06:16:49 am »
Very,

Why would you need to test over a NO RISK incident? You should only test if it's part of a routine sexual health check up. Re-read your entire thread to understand what I mean.

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2009, 06:22:45 pm »
Annn and others
Thankyou for your replies

By the way, i also did rubbing of bodies with my clothes on and she in her underwear before sex and i ejaculated...

I also water tested my condom and it seemed alright... i just worry the condom was not intact

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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2009, 07:21:42 pm »
worried,

You don't need to water test condoms. When they break, it's more than obvious.

You also did rubbing with your clothes on? Oh dear... aren't you lucky!

Give it up. You still didn't have a risk. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!


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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2009, 07:30:18 pm »
Sorry Annn and others

I agree and i did not have a risk...and maybe its more mental than the disease itself.

I wish you all the very best and i hope you continue to do the goodwork of helping people like us.

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2009, 08:52:36 am »
MAYBE it's more mental?????  Get yourself some professional help to deal with your unwarranted concerns.

And keep using condoms for intercourse everytime.
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2009, 06:43:35 am »
hi

I just forgot to add something... i had sex with her twice a situation were we had protected sex, but during intercourse i realised at a time the condom was stuck inside her vagina...as far as i know i didnt get in touch with her her fluids, is it a risk?

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Re: very worried-kangaroo land
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2009, 06:51:33 am »
Loosing the condom on withdraw is not a risk.

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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2009, 07:34:51 am »
i reckon it was during changing the position and i didnt hold the condom at the base, and perhaps thats why it stuck in... i removed it and used another condom... would this changed scenario placem e at risk?

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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2009, 07:46:50 am »
No.

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protected oral sex
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2010, 03:33:11 am »
Hello all,

I had two questions,

I tested negative after an exposure back in June. I had protected vaginal sex, and I thought the condom slipped. But I tested negative at about 6.3 weeks, should I be testing again??

Secondly, after June, I have just had two exposures, protected oral sex ( I was the insertive partner)

Any assessment on my situation would be much appreciated

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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2010, 08:25:26 am »
aus,

Once again, I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.



Concerning the condom slip, as long as the head of you penis was covered you didn't have a risk and you don't need further testing.

Concerning the oral, getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection with or without a condom. No risk.

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