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Offline dc2nice

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HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« on: December 25, 2010, 12:54:07 pm »
 >:( On 12-22-10 approx. 5a. I woke up dizzy along with abdominal discomfort. Called 911. I managed to crawl dwnstairs 2 knock on my neighbors door 4 help n open front door 4 police (2 fam house). EMT says "u got me out here at 5a for a stomach ache". As I lay in front door with underwear n teeshirt. I could hear them asking ? but felt like I was going 2 pass out. EMT put oxygen mask on. While police asking what was wrong? After telling them. I also stated that I was HIV+. She (EMT) says "I wish u would have told me that b4 I touched u". So now there putting on double gloves. One officer went up to get my pants and slippers. Dropped them in front of me and said "put them on". I told them I could not move. They would not even put my feet in 2 pants legs. As there yelling at me "yes u can, and we r not leaving until u do". I am freezing with the door wide open. There is just a brief discription. My main concern is 2 have this dealt with. I hate 2 think what would have happened if I was bleeding or vomiting. Someone please help me? I want this to b known. If I have to risk going on the news . This can't go on.  What angencies can help me? I have been a nurse 4 20 years and HIV+ longer. I did not come this far to be treated like this.  
I feel so alone.

God bless and Merry Xmas to all !
« Last Edit: December 26, 2010, 08:13:29 pm by dc2nice »

Offline anniebc

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 04:35:50 pm »
First of all Merry Christmas and welcome to the forums.

I'm an retired Nurse living with HIV and I volunteer as an Ambulance Officer in NZ, the way you were treated was bloody disgusting, the first thing you have to do is complain to the EMT communications they will know what Ambulance was sent out to you and the crew who attended you...or they should know, you can't let them get away with this, it's discrimination and it's against the law, at least it is here in NZ.

Regardless of your status you should have been treated with respect and dignity, myself and my crew have been called out to a couple of HIV patients in the past and have treated them no different to any other patient we have had to deal with, do something about this don't leave it too late.

They should be fired in my opinion, stigma in the medical field is appalling and has got to be stopped, I'm so sorry you were treated this way.

Take care
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2010, 07:30:28 pm »
Welcome to the Forums...  For a couple of years, I served on the Sonoma County Commission on AIDS as the press contact and have built relationships with editors, new directors in a 5 county region.  Currently serving as PR/Advertising agent for a San Francisco law firm.  For legal advice www.findlaw.com is an excellent choice, most attorneys offer a free consultation. 

If you decide not to take any legal action, the public still has a right to know.  Call the papers, radio stations and TV that serves your area to get the editors names and fax numbers to send a press release stating the facts and your phone number.  If assigned to a reporter, he/she will be calling you, the EMT and the police officer so keep your facts very accurate, they will be verified   ;D  Have the best day
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2010, 08:01:56 pm »

They should be fired in my opinion, stigma in the medical field is appalling and has got to be stopped, I'm so sorry you were treated this way.

Take care
Jan

I agree with Jan.  And, There should be an investigation, as to the training of these so- called professionals.

Ray
« Last Edit: December 25, 2010, 08:03:53 pm by J.R.E. »
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 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 UPDATED: As of April, 2nd 2024,Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @593 /  CD4 % @ 18 %

Lymphocytes,total-3305 (within range)

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cd8 %-57

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Offline tednlou2

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 03:04:55 am »
These people need to be reported.  In fact, they should be fired.  I don't think there is any excuse for this and no sensitivity training that would help those people.  These kinds of things are what cause people to hide their status to medical professionals, which can be dangerous.

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 03:29:44 pm »
those people need to be reported its just makes me SICK
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 03:37:42 pm »
I am so touched by all the responses. I have gone forward with this. I am in touch with newspapaers, tv news, councilmen, act up and the NAACP. This is so upsetting everytime I think about what happened. U r right. This is just why people don't say anything. They have just made things worse for themselves. I will keep u up to date.  Thanx again.  ;)

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« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 03:42:41 pm by dc2nice »

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 04:08:10 pm »
Good for you dc...we have to stand up to people like that and get rid of the Stigma once and for all, with the right peole behind you, you can make a difference.

Aroha
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2010, 05:35:17 pm »
I am glad to hear you are going forward with this. No human should be treated in such a manner.  They preached about universal precautions.  Please let us know the outcome.

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 05:44:55 pm »


Good For you,...Go get em !!

Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune / Epzicom Eliquis, Diltiazem. Pravastatin 80mg, Ezetimibe. UPDATED 2/18/24
 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 UPDATED: As of April, 2nd 2024,Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @593 /  CD4 % @ 18 %

Lymphocytes,total-3305 (within range)

cd4/cd8 ratio -0.31

cd8 %-57

72 YEARS YOUNG

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 05:57:05 pm »
that's absolutely appalling treatment. I'm glad you have taken up the fight.
i was admitted to hospital last night and have had nothing but exemplary treatment. you/we should expect/demand nothing less.
merry Christmas, ho ho ho, and all that go.
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2010, 08:37:40 pm »
Good for you for spreading the word and taking steps to getting something done about this absolutely horrid violation of your dignity and rights! Just one random question on my part. Why are you contacting the NAACP? Isn't that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People? How would they be of help in an HIV/AIDS discrimination case? Just curious...

Best of luck getting this resolved and kicking some serious butt!

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01/09/09- diagnosed HIV+
01/16/09   CD4-425    22%  VL- 32,415
11/09- started Reyetaz/Norvir/Truvada
03/10- stopped R/N/T
10/18/11   CD4- 328   20%  VL- 84,000
10/25/11   CD4- 386   22%
10/28/11- start Truvada/Reyetaz/Norvir
12/30/11  CD4- 523  29%
03/08/12  CD4- 503  31%  VL 57
07/02/12  CD4- 897  43%
08/31/12  CD4- 745  39%
12/27/12  CD4- 884  40%
03/28/13  CD4- 819  39%
07/19/13  CD4- 739  40%
10/17/13  CD4- 535  36%
01/16/14  CD4- 743  43%

02/14- switched from R/N/T to Tivicay/Epzicom because of CKD 3 suspected from tenofovir.

03/14- switched back to R/N/T due to severe nausea and inability to eat on T/E.
 
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 11:03:35 am »
Glad to see you are going forward with this.  How they treated you is uncalled for.  Can't wait to hear how this turns out!
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Offline dc2nice

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 11:56:45 pm »
Odyssey,
      u r right about the NAACP.  I am a 53 y o blk gay male. In a town that is 95% white.  I have 3 strikes against me. Black, gay and HIV+.  I hope this answers ur ? 

Offline dc2nice

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 11:58:51 pm »
Good for you for spreading the word and taking steps to getting something done about this absolutely horrid violation of your dignity and rights! Just one random question on my part. Why are you contacting the NAACP? Isn't that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People? How would they be of help in an HIV/AIDS discrimination case? Just curious...

Best of luck getting this resolved and kicking some serious butt!

odyssey

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2011, 01:27:07 pm »
>:( On 12-22-10 approx. 5a. I woke up dizzy along with abdominal discomfort. Called 911. I managed to crawl dwnstairs 2 knock on my neighbors door 4 help n open front door 4 police (2 fam house). EMT says "u got me out here at 5a for a stomach ache". As I lay in front door with underwear n teeshirt. I could hear them asking ? but felt like I was going 2 pass out. EMT put oxygen mask on. While police asking what was wrong? After telling them. I also stated that I was HIV+. She (EMT) says "I wish u would have told me that b4 I touched u". So now there putting on double gloves. One officer went up to get my pants and slippers. Dropped them in front of me and said "put them on". I told them I could not move. They would not even put my feet in 2 pants legs. As there yelling at me "yes u can, and we r not leaving until u do". I am freezing with the door wide open. There is just a brief discription. My main concern is 2 have this dealt with. I hate 2 think what would have happened if I was bleeding or vomiting. Someone please help me? I want this to b known. If I have to risk going on the news . This can't go on.  What angencies can help me? I have been a nurse 4 20 years and HIV+ longer. I did not come this far to be treated like this.  
I feel so alone.

That is just disgusting on there behalf. I would have been traumatized for a long time. These people should know better.They should not be working in this feild of work. Plain ignorant. I am sooo sorry this happened to you.
God bless and Merry Xmas to all !

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2011, 01:29:35 pm »


not quite a zombie thread but still

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2011, 05:10:18 pm »
not quite a zombie thread but still

And gurl, if she feels like Jesus today and plans to bring up the dead the least she could do is learn how to use the quote function. So not very.
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2011, 05:14:52 pm »
He seems to know that its an old post because he is wishing them a Merry Xmas today . My point is not so obvious even to me , meaning I'm confused . 
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2011, 05:23:09 pm »
He seems to know that its an old post because he is wishing them a Merry Xmas today .

Totally weird. Maybe he thinks it's really Xmas today.

oh and then he had to pick my Shrunken Balls thread to ressurect. Thanks.
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2011, 08:07:16 pm »
oh and then he had to pick my Shrunken Balls thread to ressurect. Thanks.

You know we love you in spite of your allegedly shrunken balls. We only care about your length and girth. Have you not figured that out yet?


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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2011, 08:09:08 pm »
You know we love you in spite of your allegedly shrunken balls. We only care about your length and girth. Have you not figured that out yet?


~awaits reports - verified reports - on said statistics ~

I'll provide some pictars after Seattle.
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2011, 08:13:57 pm »
I'll provide some pictars after Seattle.

If you need any help Rev, I'll hold him down while you take the pictars.. ;)

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 08:15:37 pm »
I'll provide some pictars after Seattle.

Pictars or he is in possession of a chippolata.  
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 08:19:15 pm »
If you need any help Rev, I'll hold him down while you take the pictars.. ;)

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 08:24:53 pm »
If you need any help Rev, I'll hold him down while you take the pictars.. ;)

Aroha
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I will sit on his face so he cant scream  :o
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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2011, 08:27:26 pm »
I intend to hire a tween look-alike hustler to do the dirty work for us, Jan. You and I will be sipping on caipirinhas by the pool.

Ah!..good thinking Rev, at least that way he won't put up a fight.. ;D

I will sit on his face so he cant scream  :o

Well if he did it would be for more... ;)

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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2011, 08:30:10 pm »
chippolata.  

Huh. I cant even find that on Google.

And to the rest of you- Pffffft!
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2011, 08:32:47 pm »
Chippolata = teeny weeny sausage.. ;D

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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2011, 02:23:11 pm »
Chippolata = teeny weeny sausage.. ;D

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2011, 08:11:13 pm »
I think if anyone has a chance of confirming what size his junk is, it'll be me. I'm the one sharing a room with him in Seattle. So many potential opportunities await me!

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Re: HIV+, EMT and Police refuse to assist in 911 call Lynbrook, NY.
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2011, 04:53:57 pm »
does anyone know what happened to dc2nice's case? I am very curious to see what the outcome was.

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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2011, 07:52:06 pm »
does anyone know what happened to dc2nice's case? I am very curious to see what the outcome was.

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